Match info
| Date | League | Winner | Loser | Score | Type | |||||
| 2003-04-14 | STA Platinum | ST | Spartas Truculence | 179.34 +4.18 |
][ | ][nsurrection | 122.90 -4.18 |
10-10 10-0 | Well Well |
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Writeup:
ST over ][
Was a good game. Round 1 on ST's server was a defensive battle, both sides not giving an inch. ST was first to strike, but was stymied thereafter. our D got several returns before reluctantly giving up a cap. end score 1-1
Round 2 was on ]['s server. some players had good ping, and everything seemed alright. but after match started there was some really weird lag. dobe, playing o, could hardly move so he went d for about 15 minutes, after which the lag subsided. with about 5 minutes left our O finally broke free a flag, and zorro rushed it to the window and tossed it out, starting a free for all. as our o slowly brought it back, with the clock ticking down, their entire team attempted to chase it and hold it, resulting in a beautifly chaotic melee in the FR. but, we got the cap, and the clock ran out, and we had our win.
gg ][
Comments
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-ST.Mediteranio
65.94.20.43 |
GG guys
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[TTK]Outflow
68.71.67.51 |
very nicely done ST <3 termy
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CONSTANT FLAMAGE
199.43.176.13 |
Shut up faggot outflow
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lol
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l0lz
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lozL!!
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
gg 6d, 2hws, pot shotting strats own us. win at all costs boys.
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doberman
66.229.136.129 |
Yawn, was clean 1st round. Too bad your server was unplayable, so we had to adjust. Welcome to Tactics 101.
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-ST.Zorro
63.193.189.115 |
yah, if you wanted a playable round we should have gone to a playable server.. isnt there some rule in sta where if a server is as bad as it was that your suposed to change servers? enlighten me
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
lol. you can't handle the server so you revert to llama tatics. thats just sad on your part. 1st round you had the obvious ping advatage, i have many screen shots to prove that. 2cd round, except for the spikes when everyone lagged, team pings were around 65 for ][ 80 for ST. Dont try to fool people with this round 1 was clean, and we only ran 6 D for a little while. 1st round i was chased multiple times with no provocation, same with 2cd round. 2cd round after about 1 and a half minutes you put dober as 6th D HW at Front door, for the whole round. So go ahead and whine about the server. We never said anything about yours ingame unlike you . Anywho, welcome to CNBL 101 boys.
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t1
66.185.84.73 |
Dober was getting some bad lag spikes and he went HW for about 15 minutes, till they went away, not the whole round.
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
watch hltv again bud
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cory
24.70.95.206 |
lol wtf "it lagged so we ran 6 d"
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SGM
24.220.201.53 |
C-R-Y
isnt that what nam was saying in mm1 when we wanted a server change? yeah real classy there.
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-ST.Zorro
63.193.189.115 |
ive watched hltv, and i was chased unprovoked by ure meds, was i the 6th d? no, and yah i was shot by 2 meds and got to your water with 15 health.
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-ST.Zorro
63.193.189.115 |
and for the record, i do not agree with running 6 d, i asked doberman 3 or 4 times during the match to come back to o, but when your not the leader there isnt much you can do.
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doberman
66.229.136.129 |
We've NEVER ran 6D or used any lame tactics before this match. However you refused to change the server after it was obviously unplayable (not talking about the team pings, talking about the spiking every 15 seconds). The spiking was much worse for our team however cause most of our D was east coast, and most of your O was west coast. So when you guys spiked you had 100 ping for a bit, and our soldiers had 200. Naturally, since i was useless on O i just switched to D and figured we'd take it into OT where we could shoot rockets without em taking 5 seconds to fly out. I did move back to O when the lagging stopped though, but you prolly havent noticed MJ since you stormed out of the server after we capped.
Dont give me shit about our server, it was just a recongamer like 50,000 other clans use. You should be more than used to playing on those. And we had a ping advantage first round ? Weird, cause res, zorro and i are west coast and BH lags everywhere. Not sure what you're talking about. If you cant play with 100 ping, play CS, i heard they had west/mid/east divisions.
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Res
206.163.168.10 |
]['s engy Mex was lagged quite a bit r1, that's the only person I noticed that was lagging that round. Dunno if it was his connection or what. It's not our fault you let your D slack r2 at the end.
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
Actually dobe, if you payed attention you would of seen that i stayed till the end of the match. But i can totally understand them leaving after that joke of a round. Just FYI, just cause 50000 other clans use recon gamer, doesnt make them good servers, it makes them the most used. I freely admit for the first 7 minutes of the 2cd round pings were atrocious. Dont try to pull this "you only spiked to 100" crap. Watch HLTV and watch pings, the pings went up as high on both sides.
You complained the most of anyone about the server, and your telling me to deal, lol I didnt whine once in match. Even when the server leveled out and stoped spiking (about 8 mins into it) u decided to keep playing 6D. Why? Most likely in spite, cuz the grown man child didnt get his way and wanted to exert his e-athority. Thats fine, but clans like yours are the reason we are leaving STA.
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Res
206.163.168.10 |
dobe stayed D and our O wasn't doing much. ]['s D got relaxed and sent more O. When ]['s D did that our O decided to strike. Sounds like a sound tactical maneuver.
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
ok HH
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doberman
66.229.136.129 |
I "complained" the most only because i am the leader of ST. I actually asked you to switch servers, you said no. Then when the pings werent getting any better, i asked again. And again you said no. That was my "complaining". After you wanted to stay on your server i decided to switch to D.
The reason i stayed D after the pings were fine was pretty stupid. I just didnt notice the spiking stopped cause i was too busy fighting your O. The moment Res pointed out to me that pings were normal again i switched to O. You can even view someones first person to demo and listen to our comms.
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Shotgun Massacre
24.220.201.53 |
if the spikes were bad for both of us why didnt you agree to a server change!?! argggggg, so frustrating...all this could of been avoided simply by choosing a different server both clans pinged acceptably on. but your reply was "C-R-Y". i just dont get it...but whatever whats done is done.
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
no, all this could of been avoided by playing straight up like men.
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bona
63.202.181.177 |
coming from a man himself ;)
I just had to add a little in here. I am bored.
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we got the win... now u can go eat some shit
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MasterJeff
66.122.67.130 |
^^ Classy. BTW bona ill show you how much of a man i am this weekend :D
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doberman
207.199.19.10 |
Whoever posted this^^ is a faggot.
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doberman
207.199.19.10 |
Errr.. didnt mean that to MJ, but to the unnamed person. I doubt it was someone fro ST btw, but if i find out he'll get a boot in his ass.
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CONSTANT FLAMAGE
64.229.104.202 |
Shut up faggot MasterJeff
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-ST.Zorro
64.160.201.19 |
I agree with both sides, ][ definitley should have changed servers. But dobe definitley should not have gone d, and hopefully -ST. will never do it again :-D anyways, all I can say is gg ][, rd1 was pretty intense, rd2 was just.. blah. Im sry for evreything that pissed you off :\ but whats done is done, hopefully if we ever play you again it will be under better circumstances.
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sry about my unmesured comments
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bewb-
205.155.64.161 |
mj talking about class and -ST winning at all costs strat.
*thinks back to when mj was in w)
lol
dobes a fag ;p
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alg_medi_
65.94.27.80 |
its just a GAME.
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Influx
67.122.32.205 |
rofl dobe gj you went O for what the last 30 seconds of the match after all our players left and you had already capped..good work. wish i woulda seen these replies earlier than today...but dont give me that "i didnt realize the spiking went away".....thats complete shit, if you said that your rockets lagged a ton, it seems to me like once the lag went away, it would have been easily noticible that the lag was gone. and whoever said "it was a tactical maneuver" is a moron, ill leave it at that. i guess thats what we get for joining sta plat...llama clan using a llama strat cause they cant deal with lag for what...5-8 mins? and why should we have changed servers? so we can go back on your server which was very bad for us? the pings went back down (and ended up being better for both sides then when we were on yours if i remember correctly) and you still continued to use 6 D (and yes you did use 6 D for about 27 of the 30 minutes, the remaining 3 were at the start of the round, and maybe for the last 30 seconds when we all left the server and after you had capped). your right alg_medi it is just a game..but it should be fun...after all thats why we are playing right? right ST?
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Forrester
4.62.243.240 |
Everybody show love and remember that this is a game!
;D
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rofl ][ must be crying because they lost to a "lower class" team...rofl look your cocks shrunk again FAGGOTS bg newbies. I hope you lose the rest of your matches..
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Syn
24.194.100.202 |
Wow it must be fun posting flames without an alias. BTW this is the second time they've lost to a "lower class" team (No offense CoS =D) and both times in STA Platinum. Lower level clans use lower level manuvers to make up for the skill they lack <--coming from a silver level player...
][ is definately the better clan, everyone has a bad match now and then. I mean they're the IGL champs, if they can beat |{, then this was a fluke.
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hikaru
66.24.72.13 |
a fluke 3 matches in a row, rofl
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Shotgun Massacre
24.220.201.53 |
Explain round 1 then Syn...we played them straight up with all of our "lower class" players and tied them 1-1. oh wait thats right, our team isnt in any guilds, so we must suck ass. sorry i forgot
and Influx, checked the logs...dobe played HW for a total of 22 minutes. and get off your high horse you lame ass, geezus christ you guys are acting like we raped your mother, when all we did is use an extra defender. and you guys compensated by sending 6 offense, so whats the difference? get over it, you lost.
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Hikaru
66.24.72.13 |
yea...syn, your pretty stupid
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MasterJeff
64.166.166.236 |
uhh, we have only lost 2 matches so far, not sure where this 3 is coming from.
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Hikaru
66.24.72.13 |
shut up mj, i own you. |
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Influx
67.124.78.232 |
all you, as you put it, "lower class" players have to say about the "higher class" clans is that we are all arrogant faggots, riding our 'high horses', and being in stupid guilds (true guilds dont really server a purpose), but all that crap is getting old and so overused, and FALSE (99 % of the time). you dont know shit about me, so dont judge me.. i dont judge you. all i am is pissed off that you guys are content with winning how you did, its pretty pathetic. We dealt with your crappy server r1 and didnt say a word. You lagged on our server, as did we, but you guys couldt handle it, and resorted to lame play, and as a result won. play straight up or dont play at all. we're acting like you raped our moms? mmmmk. and you "ONLY" used 1 extra D, lol!..but look what that did, especially on well...you make it seem liek an extra HW on D isnt a big deal. i REALLY hope we play you guys again...so you can see exactly what you did to us.
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Hikaru
66.24.72.13 |
your server wasn't only laggy, it was unplayable. When you see a med on the fr bridge one second , he could be right next to you the next second. and we are content because you people are acting like the biggest pussy's ever. Fuckin 1337 people, i swear.
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Freakle
68.60.161.108 |
The common denominatior for both rounds was that freakle didnt play. the end.
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Shotgun Massacre
24.220.201.53 |
we used a friggin recongamer round 1, and it was stable. what, did you ping 100!?!? is that all it takes to destroy your ability nowadays?
your server was a Gamesyndicate, that had unplayable spiking for the first 8 -10 minutes like you said. and when we asked for a new server, your reply was C-R-Y, which ive said before. man, maybe your not an elitist faggot, but Nam sure the fuck is. and that kind of reply to our request has a tendency to piss us off, you know? so dont go acting like you guys were perfect gentleman throughout this match.
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Syn
24.194.100.202 |
I'm stupid for stating the obvious?
BTW: I've watched the HLTV's, and r1 wasn't as bad as I expected, r2 ST started off potshotting a lot. Since, you couldn't get another server, you decided to be morons. Thanks I win.
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hikaru
66.24.72.13 |
ok, syn your retarded, no matter how hard you try, your not going to get cool with the elitests so save your breath and go back to losing in silver.
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Nam
66.27.164.243 |
You want to know the real story. We shouldnt of even played you guys. We did not have to play you guys cause you couldnt field 9 players so you had to use players that werent on the roster. We didnt have to let you use those players but we did. Then round 1 you run a O hw guy cause your to unskilled to get by our front door D especially since you have 40 ping and all our soldiers have 120+. Wow you tied us round 1, good for you. Our whole team pinged shitty cause 85% of us are west coast and as far as im concerned thats why you tied round 1. Round 2 we all know was a joke. You wanted to go back to your piece of shit server because ours spiked for maybe the first 5 minutes. C-R-Y i will say it again C-R-Y. Doberman your the biggest pussy of them all and have all your little ST kiddies behind you even though you were wrong to play YARD hw and run 6 D. There is no reason for any clan to turtle because of a 5 min lag. "I only played hwguy for 15 min" that is bullshit right there. I have private messages of you saying "IM SUCH A GOOD HEAVY WEAPONS ARENT I?" after the match trying to act all innocent and making yourself think that what you did was right. ST you are a fuckin joke play us again and you will get fuckin raped lame tactics and all. We should of never lost to a clan like yours cause your terrible. If you have to run those "tactics" to win then I guess the next time we meet your gonna get a rude awakening and if you dont have a full roster this time we wont even play. Doberman your a pussy and Bloddhawk ,or whatever your name is, your a tool. FUCK ST
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Zorro
67.123.16.249 |
umm, im not standing behinde doberman for going hw on d, that was pretty fucking gay.. but so was you not changing servers.. im also west coast and ping 130-140 on the -ST. server g oing against ure 120 pinging soldiers.. I used to have a GSN server when I was leading the first version of -|2- it did this same thing evrey so often.. the lag lasted SERIOUSLY for about 10m but it was really there to some degree untill the last 10. ][ definitley should have changed servers, but this didnt give us the right to play lame. And we did tie you rd1 so if we are "fuckin joke" as you say, then you should prolly disband ][ again now! because you did lose to a fucken joke, and as a leader left your clan with 3m to go, you guys cant cap in that time? dobe had gone d, if we are a fucking joke you should be able to cap in 3m, but instead you just gave up... and i did watch the demo dobe, you were hw for a long ass time, you went med, we caped and you went back to hw, then went med at the VERY end, I did not agree with this at all and am sorry to ][ for this, but they wernt exactly the best sports.
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Nam
66.27.164.243 |
we arent the best sports, we let you use people not on teh roster, sorry we get angry when teams in platinum take advantage of the lame rules and use 2 hws constantly and cant play straight up. I am so hyped up to play you guys again and just shove your faces in the mud. doberman your clan members even think your lame. Im sorry i said fuck ST earlier because i just realized doberman is the HH of 2003 and even though his players didnt want him to dober went HW yard r2 and did whatever it took to win. bg doberman fagget, gg ST.
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Mist
128.208.116.98 |
yeaaaaaah i'm not gonna say anything else but correct the statement about our leader leaving with 3 minutes left... he left with less than 1 when the match was already over - you guys didnt cap it till under 2 minutes were left
and that was about the gayest match i've ever played - that is all
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Shotgun Massacre
24.220.201.53 |
lol god your complete fucking moron Nam...thanks for the laugh.
i went back and watched my demo, the spikes was there for about 14 minutes solid, thats complete bullshit. and "WAAAAA we lagged to ST's recongamer, and everyone knows that we are all ping! WWAAAAAAAAA C-R-Y" lmao. funny shit man, funny shit. your a fucken tool nam....you sound like a whiny 14 year old throwing a little tantrum. almost be cute if it wasnt so pathetic.
as for the roster, the players we used had been on the roster for some time, including the TFL roster...only i forgot to add them, so sue me. you guys agreed thinkin youd wipe the floor with us, and now since we beat you your takin it back. real cool there, real cool.
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Stealthy
216.196.226.39 |
WOW i think you all need a group hug....its a game ffs
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Nam
66.27.164.243 |
Shotgun Massacre, who are you? get a name for yourself then talk to me you nigger. I'd handle your ass in TFC and I'd handle your ass in rl. Nerdy kids like you run your mouth online because there isnt any consequences like there are in real life. Go outside, get some sun. Im sorry you paid more attention in english than me, but there are more things than english class and the internet.
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Shotgun Massacre
24.220.201.53 |
lol Nam...im a nobody and i suck at tfc, never claimed otherwise. and frankly if getting a "name" for myself entails acting like an arrogant piece of shit like yourself, well, thats all yours man. i do love it when little kiddies say they'll kick my ass in RL though, cracks me up. same old comebacks...
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Zorro
64.160.96.238 |
well nam, i think you proved what your really about
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Influx
68.120.162.218 |
yeah hes a cool guy until faggots like you come along thinking your tough shit
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Syn
24.194.100.202 |
"ok, syn your retarded, no matter how hard you try, your not going to get cool with the elitests so save your breath and go back to losing in silver."
Hello I used to be in their clan (a good number of ][ members were in uZ) and I'm gonna stick up for them, espicially after that "match" I watched.
Oh, and god forbid I'm actually playing TFC for FUN instead of going out to win every sinlge match. Don't mock IoA or J will just ban your stupid ass from STA =D
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hikaru
209.68.66.62 |
your still retarded. Even i was in uZ, way before you or any of the 1337 people joined it, so dont think your hot shit.
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MasterJeff
63.196.199.242 |
lol let it go, ST died
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Syn
24.194.100.202 |
Hikaru, there are very few people who were in uZ before me =\
Ponies?
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